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Excuse me - I meant peace in the developed world. Specifically Europe. My bad.

Come on man - the Balkan war was a civil war in Yugoslavia - not a war of aggression against neighbors like Austria, Italy or Greece. No one claims Westerners are sacred. Do you really have a problem with the developed world and the fact that peace lasted for 75 years in Europe??? This was an extraordinary accomplishment. And it should be replicated as much as possible. Don't make this about some racial bullshit. That's really insulting.

A strong USA gives you the best opportunity for peace in the developing world. There has never been a military power like the United States. Paired up with Europe - and now you have a real chance to continue peace for a long, long time. However, you cannot have pacifists running your most powerful allies. You must be willing to use force. NATO or fear of a United Europe/America by the Soviets - kept Russia in check for 75 years. NATO fucked up royally, so did the pacifist Obama. But to say - tribalism is ruling, I think that's misguided. Strong military alliances take continued work, so your point is well taken that NATO fucked up. You just can't give up that easily - weak leadership just needs to be replaced.

That’s exactly right. Putin only respects strength that is not backed by hollow red lines.

^^ Respectfully, I think you omitted Option 3 - which is , support the war with massive aid, let the Europeans continue their defense of Europe with their people. Russia cannot win against an allied USA & Europe. Then this becomes a model for Europe- and the Russians have a powerful deterrent that they finally understand. The message also gets sent to China. There is value in a lasting peace in Europe, such as we had since the end of WWII. It’s unfortunate that Obama and a weak Germany and France chose to let Putin go so far.

^^ yeah. Japan received nothing from the Marshall Plan. It was USA only. At one point, South Korea’s GDP was 80% USA aid - it was at an very high level until the mid 70’s. Corruption was off the charts, so the USA became more hands on..to get the economic miracle to work. But back to you thesis… The rebuild of Ukraine is gonna hurt like hell and be off the charts expensive - if we ever get there. The corruption might be worse than South Korea - knowing the Ukrainians..

^^^ Not sure I get it @Xerxes. Indeed the rebuild of Korea was funded by the USA. what am I missing?

^^^^ The reason South Korea and Japan are economic miracles is because they were obliterated and totally rebuilt under the United States. Capitalism, control and funding by the USA created a rocket ship along with extremely hardworking nationalists. Same can be said for West Germany. So many other countries left in the dust.

Thanks for the transcript on OXY thoughts by Munger. Always valuable insights by Charlie.

^^^^ Social justice and liberal tolerance at it's best. Lovely. No harm done...

^^^^ Right on, let’s celebrate genital mutilation and teach this to all the other children as their way to permanently change their sex and solve their identity crisis. After all - it’s a free country What nonsense. while you’re at it - go back to teaching the world is flat.

^^ Like mentioned many times: you choose to ignore the basic lies that the movement is premised upon: A man can become woman just like that. No harm done? Blacks are inferior Gays are perverts Men can be women all boldfaced lies Teach your kids whatever madness you like - they’re your kids And you’re outraged at conservatives wanting to protect their children from lies…,what a joke

So interesting how some people want to rip on conservatives because of the ultra aggressive and evil transgender activists. To which I’d say; If you don’t believe in protecting children, then you have no morals.

It’s so interesting that some claim this impacts only a “small” portion of the population, when in fact, it targets the entire US education system. That the public is just noticing is a testament to the absolute stealth of the movement over time. It’s been virtually hidden from public view INTENTIONALLY while it gained steam amongst educational administrators- and is now firmly established as gospel in our schools/colleges. Now that it has been exposed- you’re seeing the culture war - and laws being passed lickity-split to protect parents rights. On the opposite side, you’re seeing the same, as Oregon ( @Castanza post) and California obliterate parental rights that oppose the transgender ideology. such is the insidious nature of the movement, which is now being fully exposed. So much for it doesn’t impact me. It pays to dig into the issue and figure it out.

I can’t argue with what you just said. The death and decline of the US will come from within. Just like the Roman Empire

Yes, yes, yes - here’s to the ideologues- what’s the harm anyway??? What’s true doesn’t matter, it’s all about feelings. Don’t rock the boat. Be nice and shut up. Until the lies impact you and your family. If I can convince you blacks are subhuman, maybe we can segregate and lynch a few. if I can convince you Jews are satanic, maybe we can confiscate property and stick them in work camps. If I can convince you women are property, maybe we can make them wear a vail, beat them and deny them schooling. If I can convince you that whites are systematically racist, maybe you’ll pay me $5m for being black. Finally, if I can convince you that a man can be a women, then I can shut you up and control your children, family and friends by taking away your parental rights. What’s a little harmless ideology among friends anyway? The truth doesn’t really matter does it? After all , the full force of the Feds is behind it - and we’re coming for you careers, family and way of life. best of all - if you fight it - I get to call you a bigot for believing the truth and fighting my ideology premised on the big lie. What’s the big deal???

^^^ Hey man, you’re a smart guy that totally misses the point. The point is not about what anyone “thinks”. The point is about what is “true”. If you think a man can become a woman, then you should be fine with the entire education system being changed. If you think, that , NO, this is not possible - then you might share the outrage against these lies. The whole system is changing right before our eyes based on an enormous LIE. You’re obviously ok with that - or totally obvious to what’s happening. Lying about well established basic facts of biology doesn’t advance our civilization - it does great harm to it.

^^^ That’s a ridiculous view of conservatives. You have an entire movement demanding that you believe their lies - mental illness or not. The movement demands that you believe a man can become a woman. The movement demands that this can be accomplished by changing pronouns, wearing a dress, take puberty blockers, mutilate your body. in reality, it’s all vicious lies - exactly like blacks are subhuman, women aren’t as smart as men, Jews are satanic. And it’s all taught in public schools backed by your government. In fact, the FEDERAL Government in the USA is solidly pushing EVERY aspect of what I just mentioned, led by none other that Rachel Levine. This trans movement is an extremely dangerous ideology that REQUIRES that conservatives submit to its well documented principles. Those that do NOT submit, are conducting genocide against trans people. Their words, not mine.

I agree alliances do change. But the Western Alliance (Europe/USA) has brought remarkable peace for 75 years now. It needs to stick together. It remains the most powerful alliance of all. If it’s able to link up with Japan, S Korea, Australia- it’s unbeatable.

^^^ yeah that’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Transgenderism is just an ideology that’s fanatical and needs to go - no different than the KKK or any other hate organization.

it’s a real interesting viewpoint. But Europe and the USA make for a very powerful defense and deterrent for bad guys. Macron is wrong. Hopefully the Germans will get him back in line.

now we are getting somewhere. Agree 100% on this. The gay acceptance was a long ugly & hard fought battle. Peace and have a great weekend.

No one disagrees. But it’s a very dangerous step for someone to take - we wish them the best. You say it’s because we hate them. I disagree and say it’s a 50/50 shot at solving the real issue - which is they’re in the wrong body. check out 1 stat if you will: in 2005 there was one transgender reassignment clinic in the USA. One. Now there are over 400. this is a social contagion and a selfish industry that has a vested interest in making a lot of money.

Hey man. No problem. We are way past the whole gay issue. The race issue too. I have 2 gay cousins, great guys. Worked for 2 gay bosses, knew it before I took the jobs. Again, both really great guys. This transgender epidemic is way beyond those. This is at the core of what is true and not true. Blacks are not inferior. Gays are not perverts. Sex and gender are not “fluid” and we should NOT be teaching and lying to anyone about that. It’s not the silver bullet to a young adolescent that is confused. It’s the parents job to guide them through an identity crisis . Both the public education system and transgender activists say they know better than parents. They do great harm. You seem to think this is the Civil Rights movement all over again. It’s far more insidious to society. One was real social progress, this one is a social contagion.

Why do you think I have an issue with gays?